Sturdy Internal Structure for Long Use
Smooth Precise Movement
Real WWII KG12 Grip Replica
Pitch, Roll and Twist Axes
Ergonomic Grip Angle
This is a review for the non-pro gladiator
*The action is precise, light and very smooth (the feel of the stick is fantastic, really)
*Ergonomics are excellent (for me, at least)
*Hall-effect sensor on the twist axis - this is huge for people who want precision aim with twist-yaw
*I like being able to flip the trigger up like a safety disabling access to the fire buttons when you're flying in friendly air-space (or space-space)
*Buttons are tactile, not rubbery mush
*The non-pro stick has a few mm of movement in the y-axis that is not registered on the sensors (this can be eliminated with an easy mod; see below)
*Customer support does not currently exist for US customers (Stratojet is gone)
*There are not a ton of buttons on this stick (I'm hesitant to call this a "con"; see below)
First, regarding the number of buttons: in a space or flight sim, your right stick is your aiming and firing stick. If you're using HOTAS or HOSAS, a simple right stick is a GOOD thing IMO. You do have a pinky shift that gives you easy access to 12 buttons without taking your hand off the stick. You should honestly have all the buttons you actually need quick access to between that left hand device and this stick. If, however, you're looking to use this stick ALONE (in something other than War Thunder), I'd recommend you look elsewhere.
Regarding the play in the y-axis: Yes, there is actual "slop" on the y-axis that is not registered by the hall-effect sensors. No, it's not intentional. I have updated to the latest firmware from the Russian VKB site and properly calibrated the stick with the Wizzo software, setting a deadzone to zero and registered a significant "gap" in the sensor readings around the middle of the y-axis (which, after much research, appears to be common to all non-pro Gladiators according to people who actually test for this). I opened the joystick up to determine the cause and found it - the issue a mechanical one, not digital.
Basically there's a square peg on the bottom of the joystick that rides in a slot allowing free movement side to side but presses against the armature when pitched forward and back, this is where the y-axis sensor movement comes from. The reason we're seeing this "play" and a physical deadzone is that the square peg is actually a bit loose in that slot. I fixed this by wrapping the square peg with teflon tape until it was exactly the right size to allow frictionless side to side movement WITHOUT any play in the pitch direction. Now the y-axis sensor picks up the slightest pressure, and play is reduced... but not entirely gone.
There reason play is reduced by this modification but not eliminated is because there are actually 3 sources of play - the aforementioned gap between the peg and it's slot, the fact that this stick has a twist axis and is therefore actually a 2-piece stick, and there's also some play between the lower part of the stick and the axle holding it in place. You can see that axle (and the y-axis "slot" above) in the attached picture.
Clearly, this issue is due to somewhat loose manufacturing tolerances, but I'm not sure it could be avoided at this price point and gimbal design. Like I said before, if you decide to open your stick up and give it the custom treatment, you're rewarded with an extremely smooth and precise stick without any sensor play. The tiny amount of physical play remaining is unavoidable in a twist rudder stick, and honestly not noticeable during actual gameplay (even to an extremely picky person like myself.)
So, do I recommend this stick? Yes, I do, under certain circumstances:
You have a left handed device (throttle or second stick)
You eliminate the sensor gap in the y-axis with a fairly simple mod
You don't care about 100% accuracy and eliminate the effect of that physical play by setting a software deadzone of 5%+
You will love this stick.
Don't buy it.
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The TWCS (Thrustmaster Weapon Control System) throttle is the new component of the Thrustmaster flightsim ecosystem. It is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8, 7 and Vista (32-bit and 64-bit).
The TWCS throttle, thanks to its “low” position, enables seamless and precise actions under the hand and at the fingertips.
The TWCS throttle features 5 (+3) axes, 14 action buttons + one 8-way Point of View hat switch.
The throttle’s S.M.A.R.T (Sliding Motion Advanced Rail Tracks) technology delivers a unique system of slide rails for perfectly smooth sliding motion and precision.
The T.A.R.G.E.T software allows you to load and create specific mapping profiles for each game.
I received my TWCS Throttle on Wednesday 01/02/2018. As of the time of this review I have spent approximately 8 hours on DCS: A-10C Warthog. Amazon shipping was great as always.
The throttle itself was lighter than I expected inside of the box. Upon opening, I was surprised by how good the material quality was. The surfaces are smooth and tactile to the touch. The overall build quality feels great, although it doesn't seem 100% bullet proof. I still handle it with care to make sure it'll last me several years. For the money, I think this is an amazing entry level solution for those looking for a quality HOTAS experience on a budget.
With regard to the functionality of the throttle, the TWCS Throttle also gets high marks. The Thrustmaster software you can download makes configuring the throttle a breeze, although mine came centered perfectly out of the box. I also find it handy to identify the individual button / slider names when mapping the controller as they are not labeled on the control itself. I have very large hands, but I find the button positions are extremely ergonomic with the exception of the 'Slider 0' (Antenna) dial. It's not uncommon for me to accidentally rotate this slider with my little finger when manipulating the throttle or pressing the #2 or #3 buttons. Perhaps being able to increase the friction on this slider would help me, although I can see this being a non-issue for others.
Overall, this is a great product that feels like it'll last a long time after my initial first impression. It's a great value and a must have for anyone interested in trying out flight simulations / games. If you enjoy the flight sim / gaming experience, then this will take you pretty far before you would need to consider upgrading to more expensive options.
✔ The handle grip has an ergonomic design and comfortable feeling to relax your hand fatigue for the long-time gaming.
✔ Also it’s an adjustable smartphone case and also a smartphone stand holder . You can use it to watch videos with hands-free
✔ there are 3 piece 3mm soft mat to left air place between the handle and phone ,this will help the working smartphone cool off .
✔ it is not a electronic product ,Compatible with all touch-screen smartphones. All iPhone and Android phone ,it have no matter with OS , The telescopic boom design allows you to adapt to Large size of the smartphone(13CM to 16 CM )
✔ Unlike bluetooth / WIFI controller , you no need to contact the smartphone to controller ,it avoid battery consumption ，but have the same game experience like bluetooth controller .It left the space for USB port and earphone port ,you can ware the earphone and charge your smartphone when you play games .
It’s not much bigger than the phone itself, comfortable controller feel. Like the game button/joystick and that you can switch left or right side of unit,or remove it all together. Nothing bad to say. the most important is , you hands will never feel Tired how long you play games with your mobile phone . I race every day with it. The adjustable stand is great to watch videos ect.
Would recommend because it makes games more fun.
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These work great with the Super Retrocade!! I reused my old Qanba joystick and changed the USB controller and cables. This works wonders if you have an old fight stick and need to update the USB controller to some other system. I could not use the old Sanwa joystick cable from the Qanba. I needed to use the one from this kit. Note: this kit comes with the joystick cable for Sanwa style joysticks. Look up MadLittlePixel for options on the wiring. You use 1-6 for buttons and 9-10 for select and start. 2 and 3 are the B and A buttons. The Street Fighter style is the way to go. 2,3,4 on top row, 1,5,6 on bottom row. This works perfect for Street Fighter 2. Thanks to Mad Little Pixel for the button maps and info on Zero Delay USB controllers. BTW, I got the two pack Zero Delay and an empty joystick case so that I can make another controller stick from my old Qanba parts and extra buttons. Two player delight!
Also, this will work with PC and Raspberry Pi builds! I use my PC to verify the buttons and joystick control visually in Devices and Printers. Take note that if the joystick does not register, you may need to flip the cable around on one end as the pins are reversed. Windows has a nice preview of the button maps and joystick position for checking. Cool stuff and highly recommended. The other kit they sell does not have the Sanwa joystick cable.
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🎮THE ULTIMATE COMBO- The mobile gamepad and mobile game controller by GAMR+ allows you to play your favorite mobile games such as Rules of Survival, Critical Ops and others with 4 fingers, allowing you to run and shoot simultaneously.
🎮ERGONOMIC GAMEPAD - The gamepad has a smooth surface that is designed to prevent slips and provide a comfortable grip while playing. The gamepad also includes two inbuilt charging and headphone slots to charge your phone and use your headphones while gaming. The attached thumb stick allows fluid movements to quickly aim and shoot while running.
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【Stable Design】The Clip on the back of the trigger help it's tighten enough to the screen and help you more stable in the game. You won't see them move too much and you have them all the way on the edge.
【Play as a Pro】Playing mobile games with 4 fingers instead of use thumbs only, the L1R1 triggers will enhance the gaming experience, help you to gain an upper hand on the other opponents.
【Multiple Models】Perfectly suitable for 4.5-6.5 Inch android and IOS phones. It also can be used with over 140 kinds of shooting games, especially for PUBG/Knives Out/ Fortnite/Rules of Survival. With the case attached, you can easily store it in the bag or pocket.
【Ergonomic Design】The grip with frosted surface reduce hand fatigue and avoid sweat on screen, Solid suckers handle will not block other button, give you an entire vision.
【Two Buttons + Gamepad（Can be elongated）】Gamepad can reduce hand fatigue, game buttons can bring you a better experience. Each button has been personally tested by the staff in the PUGB game, picking out high-quality, high-sensitivity products, so you don’t have to worry about quality.
I waited a couple of months to write this review because I wanted to see what the flaws with this controller would be over time and honestly this is the best controller to order for your $. This has been a great buy no problems at all with the product but I would recommend the seller to sell something to keep the suction cups in place so they won’t fall out in the middle of a game it normally doesn’t happen but when it does u have to turn off your phone and then put them back on and turn on your phone again. Always turn off your phone before u out of the suction cups and then turn it off(don’t turn phone all the way off just to the point where your screen is off ).
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Separate joystick and throttle with Full HOTAS controls
Integrated touch pad & headset jack
Adjustable sensitivity and haptic vibration feedback
Officially Licensed by BANDAI Namco entertainment
My original review was a one star due to the whole shipping ordeal that everyone preordered experienced. I received the product yesterday and I used them last night. Overall quality is better than some controls twice the price, feels great and great fit to the hands. My only complaint is that I wish they were a tad heavier weight wise. Other than that, these controls are great. They really shine in VR mode! Completes the whole feeling of actually flying the aircraft!
This doesn't work well with the Galaxy S9. If you're using it for games like Indentity V or Arena of Valor, it isn't good when used on a phone. A tablet however, it works well. You have to apply pressure to get it from sliding around. Make sure you aren't using a standard screen protector as that won't work well with this. If you're using a liquid glass screen protector, it works fine. Make sure your screen is clean, free of oils and grime otherwise the joystick doesn't work.
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